Thursday, December 2, 2010

My Hall of Fame Ballot

4 comments:

  1. Harold Baines was my hero as a kid but is not deserving. He played at a B+ level for a long time but was never elite. No planet on which Paul Molitor, Edgar Martinez, and Frank Thomas live can claim that Baines is the best-ever DH.

    My choices:

    Yes (the "Duh, obviously" kind): Alomar, Bagwell, Raines, E. Martinez, Blyleven. The last 3 may never get in but it's so obvious they should it isn't worth debating.

    No (the LOL WTF kind): Harris, Mondesi, Johnson, Surhoff, Santiago, Rueter, Higginson, Grissom, Leiter, Boone, Baerga. None of these guys should even be on a ballot.

    Marginal yes: Trammell, Larkin.

    Steroid no: Palmerio, McGwire

    Close call no: Walker, Lee Smith

    Solid no: Franco, Murphy, Mattingly, Tino M, Parker, Olerud, Morris, McGriff, Franco, Brown.


    The problem is that having let Boston whine Jim Rice into the HOF (alongside existing marginal players like Perez & Cepeda) and the embarrassing selection of Andre Dawson, all of those middling 70s/80s sluggers have a tailor-made argument for why they belong now.

    Jack Morris should only be in Cooperstown if he pays admission. His "clutchiness" is just an idiotic argument. His ERA in 6 career ALCS starts is 4.87.

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  2. Curious, are Palmeiro and McGwire steroid no for you because anyone who took steroids is a no, or is it a case by case basis?

    What's maddening is that often the people who vote no for Blyleven argue that Morris is better based on that one pitching performance. Blyleven was significantly more successful in the postseason over Morris. I believe Dan Shaughnessy said that Morris is better than Curt Schilling, possibly the best postseason pitcher in baseball history.

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  3. Jack Morris is the classic case of a guy building an argument on one game. One game simply isn't enough to overcome that he was a pretty good but never great pitcher. He was league average for most of his career and substantially below it for the last 5 or 6 years.

    If Jack Morris gets in on one game, why not Gene Larkin? I mean, come on.

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  4. There's an endless list of Jack Morris type pitchers, pitchers that accumulated a lot of innings and wins but were never great. Here's a few for now:

    Dennis Martinez
    David Wells
    Jamie Moyer
    Andy Pettitte
    Chuck Finley
    Tommy John
    Jim Kaat

    Jack Morris is probably worse than all of them too. His adjusted ERA (105, slightly above average) reflects this, but if he was born a few years later and had to pitch in part of the "steroid era" he wouldn't have made it passed the first ballot.

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